You can calculate the car benefits via the payroll software you do not need the P11D module to do this, enter the information under the Car/Fuel tab on the employee record and click the 'payrolled benefit' bit, this gives you the cash equivalent value for the vehicle.

the P11D software is never updated until way after the year end, usually end May/June time so don't expect it until then.

I didn't realise this, when I spoke to Sage I said I didn't want to use it for P11D's but only to calculate benefits for payrolling and they said this would do this.  I think I need to go back to them as we've just paid over £1k for something we don't really need! thanks for your reply.

Hi Elaine,

You can do the Employers class 1a and P11D(b) via HMRC on-line tool you still don't need the P11D software to be able to do this.

Thanks I was under the impression that the P11D software would calculate the benefits for payrolling but as the legislation is always for the previous year it won't give me the correct amounts for payrolling from April 25. The Sage Knowledge base article  told me that if I used the software I'd have to calculate manually and enter manually, hence the reason for the purchase of the P11D software.  The Class 1A calc wouldn't really have been an issue, I can do that manually at year end.  

Thanks Sarah, yes I can do that part (even without software if necessary).  Just a shame we purchased the P11D software thinking it was going to do the benefit calcs when it wasn't really needed.  Hopefully when payrolling becomes mandatory then Sage will update the payroll software to automatically add the correct  pro rate monthly amounts for taxable benefits, without having to manually input .

Thanks Sarah, yes I can do that part (even without software if necessary).  Just a shame we purchased the P11D software thinking it was going to do the benefit calcs when it wasn't really needed.  Hopefully when payrolling becomes mandatory then Sage will update the payroll software to automatically add the correct  pro rate monthly amounts for taxable benefits, without having to manually input .

Yes can payrolling benefits in kind  / p11d be integrated within the existing Payroll software as it will be manadatory from April 2026. That way we don't have to buy separate software, much like has been done with Pensions. Sage Payroll no doubt will increase our subs for this.