Upgrade not reporting T4 boxes 57-60 correctly

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Upgrade to 2021.1.1 still doesn't report boxes 57 to 60 correctly.

Non-cash non-taxable benefits are included (eg. RRSP benefits) and non-cash taxable benefits (eg. premiums for Life Insurance, AD&D, STD & LTD) which are not actually RECEIVED by the employee during the pay period are included in these boxes.  Per CRA's website, these boxes should only include amounts received by the employee during the pay period.

I've been waiting for Sage to call me back since early last week when I started preparing manual T4s - no call received.

I spent 7 hours on hold over two days with CRA to determine these should not be included and it is on CRA's website - why doesn't the update we waited an extra 5 days for calculate the amounts correctly?

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  • 0 in reply to KathleenF

    No, it is obvious that taxable benefits should be included in Box 14 & Box 40 on a T4.

    The subject line clearly indicates that boxes 57-60 are reporting non-cash taxable and non-cash non-taxable benefits (eg: benefits premiums, RRSP employer portion - which the employee does not actually receive during the pay period).  Per CRA - These boxes should only be reporting in-cash taxable benefits (eg: cell allowance, EIPRP rebate - amounts the employee actually receives in cash in the pay period).

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  • 0 in reply to CCW

    Hi , thank you for providing some specific details of the benefits in question. Checked in with the team regarding your feedback. They advised that: 

    All of these benefits are taxable benefits which, when recorded in Sage 50, are reported as employment income in Box 14 and thus, in Boxes 57 to 60. Employment income includes both cash and non-cash taxable benefits. (Insurable income for EI purposes generally only includes cash taxable benefits.)

    We are sorry, we could not find any documentation from the CRA that shows that the employment income reported in Boxes 57 to 60 is different from the employment income reported in Box 14. We believe that the CRA rep that you talked to, either mis-understood your question, or gave you the wrong information.  

  • 0 in reply to Erzsi_I

    From CRA at this link: Frequently asked questions: Canada emergency wage subsidy (CEWS) - Canada.ca
    17-02. Are non-taxable employee benefits, such as employer contributions to a registered pension plan or a private health services plan, included in eligible remuneration paid to an eligible employee? New: August 11, 2020

    No. Eligible remuneration of an eligible employee means amounts paid to an employee as salary, wages, and other remuneration for which an eligible employer would generally be required to make payroll deductions to be remitted to the CRA. Non-taxable benefits are not eligible remuneration paid to an eligible employee

  • 0 in reply to CCW

    CCW - I have just checked one set of my T4 forms where there are non-cash benefits and the numbers are correct. The non-cash benefits are considered as income and are taxed so they must be included in Box 14 and subsequently in one of the four new boxes. As for the non-taxable benefits I cannot check as I don't have any with those parameters. I would suggest that they are not showing or there would have been conversation either here or on social media about the problem. My question would be are the benefits set up properly to not be a part of box 14. If they are included in box 14 then they have to also be included in one of the new boxes depending on dates.

  • 0 in reply to CCW
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    Thank you for the additional information and the link to the FAQ for CEWS. The answer in the FAQ though is referring to “eligible remuneration” for CEWS. The criteria for “eligible remuneration” excludes a number of non-cash benefits, and, as a result, is different from “employment income”. However, according to the CRA documentation for T4 reporting, employment income is to be reported in Boxes 57 to 60.

  • 0 in reply to KathleenF
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    I fully agree with your notes, Kathleen, too many people are taking these boxes to be reporting for other subsidies and they are not related. The amounts here are the total employment income that attracted the statutory deductions for each period. Forget CEWS or TWSE as those are employer subsidies and are not reported on an employee basis.