Payroll Remittance Question

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I'm having trouble understanding how to post payroll remittances. I have Sage 50 Pro Accounting 2013. 

There are a bunch of old posts on this topic, but none of them fully clarify this for me. Advice in a few older posts was to choose "Make Other Payment" and enter the amounts owing, applied to their respective accounts. So that is what I am doing, but it doesn't update the amounts owing under "Pay Remittance".

What is the point of the "Pay Remittance" option? I was using it to record the payments before, but then I would have a negative amount in my Accounts Payable. That's why I started recording the payments using "Make Other Payment". Then do I just do a payment adjustment to update the amount owing? 

Seems silly and redundant. Am I doing it totally wrong??

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    If you use Remittances, and you show a negative amount in accounts payable, it's either that:

    - you're paying the remittance before it's due, or

    - you've switched the 'End of Remitting Period' and Payment (Cheque) dates.

    The remittance amount should show as an Accounts Payable amount, from the end of the Remitting Period, to the Payment Date.  

    If your CRA remittance was for August, and it's due on Sept 15, recording a Remittance will move all the amounts to be remitted out of the CPP, EI, and Tax Payable accounts as of Aug 31, into Accounts Payable, and record a second JE as of Sept 15 to record the payment.

    You can, of course do it any number of other ways.   For financial presentation to a bank, they may want to see all your Government debt separately, and using Remittances will lump it in with the other payables in one G/L account.

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    Randy

    RandyW said:
    ...For financial presentation to a bank, they may want to see all your Government debt separately, and using Remittances will lump it in with the other payables in one G/L account.

    I thought the Remittance function does not post the payable until the payment date.  So technically it is on the balance sheet in separate G/L accounts until the payment is made but the accounts payable entry is back dated at that time.

  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Thanks for your input everyone, I just needed clarification! That helps a lot.

  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Yes.   The Remittance function makes the two entries on the appropriate dates.  

    With one click:

    This also makes the remittance report show the correct numbers for the amount due at all times.  If I enter a remittance and am hit by a bus at lunchtime, someone else checking the report for that remitting period can see that there's no amount due, and see the payment. 

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  • 0 in reply to Richard S. Ridings

    Yes.   The Remittance function makes the two entries on the appropriate dates.  

    With one click:

    This also makes the remittance report show the correct numbers for the amount due at all times.  If I enter a remittance and am hit by a bus at lunchtime, someone else checking the report for that remitting period can see that there's no amount due, and see the payment. 

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  • 0 in reply to RandyW

    Ok so I want to make sure I am doing this correctly.  The finance girl was laid off last year and I was put in her place with no accounting background what so ever.  I figured out how to do the payroll remittance by opening the past ones she did. So here is what I do:

    Reports/Payroll/Employees

    Report Type: Detail

    Select All

    Start: the first or the 16 of each month

    Finish: the 15 or last day of each month

    This gives me the GROSS (what I enter in the Payroll Remittance Form)

    I compare the Net Pay with the DD Log to make sure it matches

    Then I print the following:

    Report/Payroll/Deduction and Expenses

    Start and End : same as above

    Select: CPP, EI, TAX

    That gives me the amounts to pay along with the number of employees for that period.

    Now that I have those numbers I go to my recurring payables and I post it as follow:

    2185 CPP Payable

    2180 EI Payable

    2190 Witholding Tax Payable

    If my remittance are for the 1-15 i post it as the 16.

    If my remittance are for 16-31 I post it as the 1st.

    That is what I am not sure that I am doing correctly.  Should I post it as of the 15 or the 31?

    Then when I want to make the payment i go to:

    Payment/Pay Purchase Invoice

    Then I post it as of the day i pay it

    Since I am starting a new year I want to start it properly.  Can someone tell me if I need to tweak anything?

    Thanks,

    LaChapa