Can someone tell me what the options are for a Sage 100 customer running a version no longer supported by Sage? Can a partner / MD continue to support the customer with bug fixes and procedural changes?
The nursing home support program.
Can someone tell me what the options are for a Sage 100 customer running a version no longer supported by Sage? Can a partner / MD continue to support the customer with bug fixes and procedural changes?
The nursing home support program.
To-upgrade or not-to-upgrade is indeed separate from licensing considerations.
The way Sage handled Perpetual customers was backwards (IMHO). Perpetual customers have paid Sage much, much, much more than…
Sage had to go to the current subscription model because they were getting killed by market analysist and their revenue stream was not as healthy as it should be. People were letting their license expire…
if the client is running a version of Sage 100 no longer supported then there would no longer be new hotfixes or product updates on that version created or released by Sage.
Initially, the hotfixes and…
If they are "on plan" with Sage (meaning: perpetual current on maintenance, or active subscription) they are entitled to upgrades / updates / hotfixes.
For anyone who does not have a current license, we only apply patches / updates / hot-fixes that were released while they had an active license.
Otherwise, we do "best effort" at keeping a customer running, with a caveat that we can't guarantee anything on unsupported versions. New script or custom report in an ancient version (perpetual, off plan), no problem. Help with an error message... sure.
(I can't comment on Master Developer type licensing considerations at all).
If they are "on plan" with Sage (meaning: perpetual current on maintenance, or active subscription) they are entitled to upgrades / updates / hotfixes.
For anyone who does not have a current license, we only apply patches / updates / hot-fixes that were released while they had an active license.
Otherwise, we do "best effort" at keeping a customer running, with a caveat that we can't guarantee anything on unsupported versions. New script or custom report in an ancient version (perpetual, off plan), no problem. Help with an error message... sure.
(I can't comment on Master Developer type licensing considerations at all).
AFAIK: Sage does not provide support to customers not on an active support plan.
We're always encouraged to get customers to upgrade / stay on plan, which we try to do, but the final decision on such things is up to the client. We even have a few customers who are current, but running older versions... because upgrades come with cost and risk (balanced against the risk of running older software, and missing out on new features).
Kevin,
I guess my question is if a customer has already paid for the software, invested heavily in customization and happy with the support by their partner, does Sage still love them?
The problem I see is if the customer signs up for the 'plan' and then reverts back to their partner for support, Sage can disable their software to be read only.
If the customer purchased under perpetual licenses, they can continue to use that software for as long as it functions. Perpetual will not "turn off". They can't get updates and can't use new software technology with older version; but can hobble along on an old version they purchased via perpetual, after they stop paying annual maintenance. And a Channel Partner can continue to assist them as needed without installing new updates or any hot fixes available after they stopped paying maintenance.
If the customer purchased under subscription licenses, they can continue to use the software as long as they are current and paying their subscription; like any other vendor offering a subscription. You stop paying and you stop getting the goods.
I have an opinion on how Sage handled the transition from Perpetual licensing to subscriptions that is not favorable, but Sage has every right to set the terms and conditions of its software subscriptions however they wish.
If anyone violates any licensing agreements, yes. Otherwise, I can't see why / how.
Should you not be aware, the subscription is enforced by a "dial home" service... it's not an honor system.
If you bought a car and it's paid for, should you be required to sign a lease to get it serviced?
In my opinion Sage should have offered their subscription program to new users of the software and give incentives to existing loyal users to upgrade.
Acumatica and Netsuite are benefiting from how Sage treats slow to upgrade customers.
Software is not a physical object like a car, and it is never "bought"... it is licensed under a EULA.
I have found that customers slow to upgrade don't have the money to upgrade so going to Acumatica or Netsuite is not an option for them. I do know one company on MAS90 Level 2.0 and another one on MAS90 v4.3.
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