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I got income tax refund $100 I posted Dr. 1060 Chequing acct.& cr. 2160 income tax payable but in the financial Balance sheet under income tax payable has a balance $100 which I think should show .00 Do I do instead of put cr 5680 income tax expense

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    SUGGESTED

    Hi ,

    You seem to be on the right track as long as you originally booked the debit on the 5680 income tax expense account. I would advise to verify with an accountant on this transaction before filing your taxes. This document is handy in handling debits and credits. Hope this helps.

  • 0 in reply to DeneshS

    If I made the wrong entry to cr. Income tax payable instead of Income tax expense and already closed my year end to file T2. Now it has a credit balance in the Income Tax Payable in my Balance Sheet. What can I do now since I already closed the year end? Please advise.

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    Sage 50 will allow you to work in 2 years (current year and previous) at a time. You are able to look up that transaction from the previous year and adjust it and repost the corrections.

  • 0 in reply to DeneshS

    Can you give me more details  how to do this? You meant after correction the Balance sheet from previous year will show .00 income tax payable then I can submit T2 

    What are the steps to do this adjustment? I still not sure how to do this please give examples.

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    To adjust Income Tax refund wrong entry

    I go to general journal back dated to Oct 18, 2021 and make the adjustment by dr. 2160 Income tax payable  cr.5680 Income tax expenses then click process.

    It has this warning "the date for this transaction precedes the Fiscal Start date and will affect prior-year reports. It will also affect the current year's starting balances. Are you sure you want to continue?" 

    Should I click this process? Please advise.

     

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu
    SUGGESTED

    Correct. Click yes to continue as long as you did not file 2021 yet.

  • +1 in reply to DeneshS
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    Method 1

     I back dated to Oct 18, 2021 the actual entry is dr. bank acct. cr Income Tax payable. Then I change to dr. bank acct. and cr. Income tax expenses.

    Method 2

    Can I go to General Journal back dated July 31, 2022 (year end) make the adjusted

    entry  dr. Income tax payable cr. Income tax expenses. and it has this warning

    "The date for this transaction precedes the Fiscal Start date and will affect prior year reports. It will also affect the current year's starting balances. Are you sure you want to continue?'

    So you think it will not affect the current year's starting balances since is just adjustment with the same amount/figure just put in different entry 5680 instead of 2160  I am scare to click the process so I afraid it will affect the starting balance. Please advise.

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    The current earnings for the current year always gets pushed to retained earnings when you advance into the next year. This is why you are getting the message. It is not a big deal in my opinion because you have not filed anything from the sounds of it. Continue posting the transaction on the date that it belongs and you should be fine. Run the adjustment by an accountant before filing the T2 to make sure you did the right thing.

  • 0 in reply to DeneshS

    I am more comfortable using Method 2 by back dated to July 31, 2022 (year end)make adjustment there. Is it also ok too. Please advise.Thanks so much

    I have no accountant.

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    You must post the transaction on the date of the bank deposit otherwise your bank reconciliation will not balance.

  • 0 in reply to DeneshS

    On October 18, 2021 when received CRA refund I debited bank account cr. Income Tax payable and on July 31, 2022 I debit Income Tax Payable and credit Income Tax expenses. But now there is a negative amount in my Income statement under Expenses. Is this ok. Please advise.

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    on October 18, 2021 when received refund from CRA

    I dr. 1060 bank account and cr. 2160 Income Tax payable.

    To do the adjustment

     I back dated July 31, 2022 dr. Income Tax payable cr 3560 retained earnings.

    Please advise

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    P.S.

    The Income Tax refund cheque received from CRA was on Oct. 2021 but

    the refunds applied to 2020 and 2018 respectively.

    Do I have to go back to adjust year end if 2020 and 2018?

    Please advise.

  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    I have no accountant.

    Can you advise me what entry/entries should I make besides Cr. Retained earnings? Thanks so much.
  • 0 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu

    Dr. Income Tax payable cr. retained earnings

  • +1 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu
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    Hi ,

    Like  had mentioned in the other post, we highly recommend you speak to a trusted CPA to ensure that you are doing the correct entries and filing. Accounting can be much like an engine not running properly and we need to do a diagnosis on the past history to determine a current fix and we cannot give a single answer based on one scenario. Here are the facts that we do know in your situation:

    1. You must post a debit to the bank account around the time the deposit was done and the transaction must match that time period. If the deposit occurred in 2021, keep the transaction in this period otherwise, the bank reconciliation will not match.
    2. Sage 50 will not allow you to post to 2020 or 2018 and you should not need to do this anyway otherwise you would be ruining the tax filing. Liability accounts accrue their balance year over year and this is the reason why you may not need to go back to 2018 or 2020 to make any changes.
    3. You may not need to post directly to the retained earnings account because posting to the expense account is directly related to current earnings and eventually retained earnings. A negative expense sounds good but only if you already booked the expense in the past. If you are offsetting past year expenses, a negative expense is good because the account was a positive in the past (if that is the case).
    4. You need to have someone look at the full history of the General Ledger to see the full picture.

    Given what you have told us, we suggest you take these findings to an expert in an effort to avoid tax filing issues that can cause headaches down the road. Trust that this direction suits you well.

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  • +1 in reply to Mi Ling Yiu
    verified answer

    Hi ,

    Like  had mentioned in the other post, we highly recommend you speak to a trusted CPA to ensure that you are doing the correct entries and filing. Accounting can be much like an engine not running properly and we need to do a diagnosis on the past history to determine a current fix and we cannot give a single answer based on one scenario. Here are the facts that we do know in your situation:

    1. You must post a debit to the bank account around the time the deposit was done and the transaction must match that time period. If the deposit occurred in 2021, keep the transaction in this period otherwise, the bank reconciliation will not match.
    2. Sage 50 will not allow you to post to 2020 or 2018 and you should not need to do this anyway otherwise you would be ruining the tax filing. Liability accounts accrue their balance year over year and this is the reason why you may not need to go back to 2018 or 2020 to make any changes.
    3. You may not need to post directly to the retained earnings account because posting to the expense account is directly related to current earnings and eventually retained earnings. A negative expense sounds good but only if you already booked the expense in the past. If you are offsetting past year expenses, a negative expense is good because the account was a positive in the past (if that is the case).
    4. You need to have someone look at the full history of the General Ledger to see the full picture.

    Given what you have told us, we suggest you take these findings to an expert in an effort to avoid tax filing issues that can cause headaches down the road. Trust that this direction suits you well.

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